sarah katherine lewis ([info]markedformetal) wrote,
@ 2007-06-21 11:11:00
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Current mood:nervous
Current music:combichrist feat. klaus lowswitch: "christus commando"

word from my mama
From email correspondance (quoted with her permission).

"One of the worst things about depression is people who haven't experienced it think it is a character flaw which can and should be overcome by discipline, sucking it up, taking a frown and turning it upside down. To them, it looks like other issues which they do recognize and possibly have overcome: laziness, self-absorbtion, lack of direction, etc. That is why people who do get it, who really understand the strength it takes to conduct a life with a 500-pound block of psychic concrete on board, who know that people who wade through mud all day are really brave--those people are treasures. My brother [...] (never afflicted) responds like your dad. My sister [...] (afflicted) gets it and is a source of huge comfort. I know you have people who understand. I do."

and

"There are several diseases which are diabolical. One is alcoholism--the disease where part of it is denying you are sick. Depression is its cousin--wherein you buy into the coffeeshop school of thought when you're in remission. You start to think, 'Maybe I am just lazy and disorganized, just like they say...!' It's also incredibly unattractive disease, wherein you know you are really boring others and they do not understand and you are not interesting on the 20th or so bout. I'm not saying you're boring me, [Sarah]. I'm saying I understand so well."

*****

And now I'm waiting for my dad to pick me up, so we can have lunch together. Here is my plan if he attempts to give me any more advice about managing my depression: run like hell.

No, seriously: I'll change the subject. If he persists, I'll get up and go to the ladies' room to give him a big time-out, and come back with another subject all ready to go.

If he asks how my book's going, I'll say "Great!" and change the subject.

Possible subjects: the weather. My dad's dog. Movies/TV?

Food my dad remembers from his childhood? What was a big treat? What was your favorite dinner? What food did you hate the most? Do you like it now?

*****

I wish Xanax worked for me, but benzos do absolutely nothing for me.



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[info]tacofordinner
2007-06-21 06:41 pm UTC (link)
Your Mother is really insightful! Everything she said there is really spot on. I have family members that just think I'm a lazy spazz when I'm just struggling to deal with my life.

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[info]heathey
2007-06-21 06:56 pm UTC (link)
God bless your mom. I'm sorry about your dad not understanding.

My father has told me to my face that he thinks people who take medication are weak (followed by smirking.) And I was not nearly as jacked up on meds then as I am now. My mom (never afflicted) at least tries to understand and I am grateful for her efforts, even though they don't always translate well. She asks questions and she wants me to get help and even though I can't explain it in a way she understands she listens and tries. She is the only person in my family that I discuss my depression with. No one else even knows about my last breakdown. Well, P. does, but he was there.

Thanks for sharing that.

xoxoxoxo

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[info]notprada
2007-06-21 07:08 pm UTC (link)
Thanks for that. I've been through it and chances are pretty good that I'll be through it again, despite meds and my best efforts, because that's just how it works. It's comforting to know that other people get it.

You're awesome, by the way, depression, no depression, still fabulous.

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[info]jillbertini
2007-06-21 07:12 pm UTC (link)
I'm glad to hear your mom understands and gets it. It sounds like she is going to be a good ally for you.

xoxo

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[info]hartstar99
2007-06-21 08:10 pm UTC (link)
Its always great when other people actually understand what depression is. I have had to explain it to people and they give me the "yeah, you're just insane" sort of the look that promptly makes me shut the hell up.
Hope the lunch went/goes well!

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[info]whoretence
2007-06-21 08:20 pm UTC (link)
I used to have a boss I was very close to in a fatherly kind of way and he always told me all I needed to do was get laid, when it was the abominable relationships I was in that was dragging my sense of worth through the dirt and causing a lot of the symptoms I was suffering in the first place. People just don't get it if they haven't lived it.

Its always strange to me when people say they have no idea how someone could think about killing themselves. I thought EVERYONE thought about killing themselves. I wonder sometimes if most people just don't admit it.

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[info]nerdycellist
2007-06-21 08:30 pm UTC (link)
Your mom's got it right. My family is rife with all kinds of mental illness from all kinds of causes - from garden variety depression, SAD, schizophrenia, some kind of multiple personality (but not MPD) thing, you name it. I wound up with, I think, bi-polar. I'm pretty high-functioning though, and quite averse to shrinks since a crappy adolescent experience. I get by.

The Roommate, who's never had any kind of mental illness, and has only a little depression somewhere off on her family tree, has a sister who's both genius level brilliant, and severely depressed. It frustrates me when TR rants to me about how her sister just needs to get off her ass and get over herself, etc. etc - TR's sole experience with depression is when she's ill, lost her job, having money problems, and so forth; she's not a very compassionate sister. Luckily they live on different sides of the country. I wish her sister could switch families with my brother, who wound up "normal"; not that we don't love him, but I think TR's sis might have a better support system from my crazy family.

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[info]lilamp
2007-06-21 08:33 pm UTC (link)
your mama is very wellspoken. must run in the family. :)

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[info]markedformetal
2007-06-22 05:11 pm UTC (link)
She's much smarter than I am.

xoxoxoxoxoxooxxooxoxoxoxoxoxoxox

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[info]tircha
2007-06-21 08:51 pm UTC (link)
OMG go mom.

Score one for team clue, yay.

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[info]markedformetal
2007-06-22 08:17 pm UTC (link)
Word and word, mama.

xoxooxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxooxox

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[info]camilleyun
2007-06-21 09:05 pm UTC (link)
I wish I could borrow your mom.

No one but my therapist understands what I go through.

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[info]markedformetal
2007-06-22 05:12 pm UTC (link)
I understand.

xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxooxoxoxoxoxoxo

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[info]theoryladen
2007-06-21 09:15 pm UTC (link)
*sigh*
depression is a legitimate disease though when i tell some people that i take meds for it, they react as if I were doing something so outrageous.

it's really the same as taking meds, for example, for diabetes.

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[info]infinitefetish
2007-06-21 09:36 pm UTC (link)
you are lucky to have such an intelligent and caring mom.

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[info]goodbadgirl
2007-06-21 10:08 pm UTC (link)
You are a brave girl. And yes it really does suck the big one to have a disease that other people can't see.

I love you. I get it. And I think you're beautiful.

And...even if it may not seem this way now this place that you're currently in will shift...things will become a brighter again. You will know a life that isn't dominated by this all the time again. I promise.

Just hang in there for me pretty girl. I will do the same. You know us working bitches have to help each other from sliding off the end of the earth sometimes. xoxox

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[info]markedformetal
2007-06-22 08:19 pm UTC (link)
Thank you. You really are the sweetness.

xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxooxoxoxox

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[info]manoman
2007-06-21 10:44 pm UTC (link)
In general, only those of us who have suffered depression can really understand how it feels and how frustrating it is to have this damned illness. Hugs

xoxoxoxoxo
rd

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[info]barkdust
2007-06-21 11:35 pm UTC (link)
Your mom is fucking amazing.

'Maybe I am just lazy and disorganized, just like they say...!'

I'm always saying that to myself. Always.

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[info]constintina
2007-06-22 03:07 am UTC (link)
Xanax for depression? I guess when I'm super overwhelmingly suicidally dispairing it can help, but the lower-grade I-don't-want-to-move-I-don't-care depression it doesn't do shit for. I have a prescription that helps me when I have panic attacks or incapacitating anxiety, but not depression...luckily. I might be scared having a tot. legit supply of pills at my disposal, except that xanax makes me complacent and dumb and unmotivated and that's not what I need when depressed.

Good luck with your conversation-making!

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[info]ophelia_is_dead
2007-06-22 03:59 am UTC (link)
it's so wonderful that your mother gets it, especially with what happened with your dad. and good for you having a plan!!!! so much better than just hoping the issue will go away.

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[info]kasheesty
2007-06-22 04:17 am UTC (link)


Your Mama is RIGHT! About depression and alcoholism!

(I speak from lifelong experience with *both*)


XOXOXOXOXOXOXOX

Sheila in NJ

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[info]qandnotjen
2007-06-22 06:22 am UTC (link)
I'm sure I'll be the minority (and I know I'll get jumped on for this), but I think its braver to conquer it, whether your depression be a chemical imbalance and you need to find a health/medication regimen that works for you or whether it's unresolved past traumas that you need to work on.

I think the people who stop feeding into it and do something to take back the power in their life are braver.

Staying the same and just lolling about in the comfortable realm of depression while doing what you need to, to get by, isn't brave to me.

Whether it takes you months or years or even decades or maybe even never happens, as long as you are actively TRYING, thats when its brave to me.

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[info]elementa
2007-06-22 07:27 am UTC (link)
Your mom is very cool and thanks for posting her words.

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[info]markedformetal
2007-06-22 05:15 pm UTC (link)
I have a lot of depressed people on my FL and I thought that these words might bring some comfort. Sometimes it's just good to know that somebody, somewhere understands.

xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxooxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxo

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[info]sleepwalks
2007-06-22 07:39 am UTC (link)
i've meant to say this to you all along while reading these posts, but i'm finally getting off my ass here ...

i would be surprised if you WEREN'T depressed. you're doing something with your life that's so big and so scary, i'd be surprised if there weren't some side effect from it. you're running against "the norm" at every level, getting criticized for it, and sticking to your guns. i am not saying this to suggest that your writing career is the sole source of your difficulties. i have the same problem you do, and your mom's words actually are very comforting to me.

i guess i'm just saying that when i read your entries, i don't think you give yourself enough credit for trying to topple the colossus, and the intense amount of struggle that comes with that. i think there's a higher price you pay for doing what you want to with your life. you are doing a very good job at making your ambitions more than just ambitions. i don't know you, but i'm very pfoud of you. i hope things went well with your dad. <3

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[info]darthgeek
2007-06-22 04:11 pm UTC (link)
I'm glad that your mother gets it. It's good to have people around you that understand.

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[info]curly
2007-06-23 01:29 am UTC (link)
your mom's assessment is spot on. even some of my dearest friends seriously do not get it, even though they want to. they can't even fathom how my feelings could be so out of touch with reality. (of course, that's crazy to me, because i learned a LONG time ago that feelings <> truth.)

p.s. found you again through [info]super_supper and i'm glad for it!

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[info]psoup
2007-06-24 10:14 am UTC (link)
how lucky you are to have such empathy from your mom.
Severe depression runs on my mom's side of the family.
My sister still suffers. My parents diagnosis is "God will cure her." I've also had/still have my bouts with depression. You can't tell someone who suffers to suck it up, do something for someone else, there are people that have it so much worse, etc.

I like what Steven Wright says about depression:
"Depression is anger without the enthusiasm."

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[info]markedformetal
2007-06-24 07:16 pm UTC (link)
That quote is hilarious.

xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxo

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